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Sunday, December 31, 2017

An American Nuremburg?

I wouldn't exactly call them "fears", myself. More like "hopes".
A new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that based upon signals intelligence (SIGINT/ELINT) accumulated over the past year by Signal Communications Troops (SCT) conducting training missions in the Republic of Cuba—and who’ve been “aided/augmented” by the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) in their findings—General Staff Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova is able to confirm that a level of “high confidence” currently exists that President Donald Trump is preparing to transfer to the Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp (located in Cuba) an unknown number of “high level” American citizen detainees in preparation for their trials before a US Military Tribunal—and whose nearest historical counterpart incident of were the 1945-46 Nuremberg Trials held to prosecute German Nazi war criminals—and that likewise, as seen in 1945, is now seeing hundreds of highly trained and specialized US Army Military Police being rushed to Cuba to oversee this process. 
Why does all of this sound vaguely... familiar somehow. Also, if the chans are to be believed, more than a few of these so-called citizen detainees have already been transferred to Guantanamo.

If these reports are to be believed - and it is true that the 850th Military Police Battalion has been deployed to Guantanamo Bay to support Operation Enduring Freedom - then it appears The Storm will be upon us shortly.

Happy New Year indeed!

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Anonymous Andrew E. December 31, 2017 6:06 PM  

Man, this would be so great!

Reminder that regular joe, retired firefighter, self-described Christian watchman Mark Taylor has been doing interviews for several years now concerning his Trump prophecies, one element of which has been that we would see military trials at some point.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 31, 2017 6:18 PM  

There was a lot of flights to GITMO, well beyond the norm. Something is definitely "up", right along with Mattis taking a visit. A lot of the bigger players are quite old, so I imagine we'll get a rash of heart attack deaths soon.

Quite related to this, it really seems that Iran is in the process of falling. Looks like the Kurdish regions of Iran have a separate internet from the rest, with a large deal of planning for an event like this, so someone was quite well prepared for what is happening in Iran.

I wonder if, after the Kurdish referendum some months back, a deal was cut to slice out a Kurdish State from parts of Iran? Iran-aligned forces have been lobbing missiles at the Saudi capital, so Iran has a lot of locally animated enemies.

And, since this is working without thousands dead, so far, this is clearly not an American operation.

Blogger Connie Chastain December 31, 2017 6:25 PM  

Oh, Vox. I can't believe you're referencing Sorcha Faal....

Blogger Robert What? December 31, 2017 6:28 PM  

I place this in the category of highly unlikely but I'll believe it if I see it.

Blogger VD December 31, 2017 6:34 PM  

Oh, Vox. I can't believe you're referencing Sorcha Faal.

Perhaps it's true, perhaps it isn't. But stupid "lawsy, don't you know that's been DEBUNKED" posturing cuts no ice around here.

We'll find out soon enough.

Anonymous johnc December 31, 2017 6:45 PM  

A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon.

Anonymous Chippewa December 31, 2017 6:47 PM  

Yup, while I want it happen, this would probably initiate some kind of political crisis. A real one, mind you.

Be on guard and make your moves very carefully.

Blogger Lazy Hero December 31, 2017 6:48 PM  

I wonder if they are clearing prison cells in Guantanamo to put mullahs in when Iran falls?

Anonymous #5454 December 31, 2017 6:51 PM  

Even if all of their their horrendous crimes are intimately spelled out?

Trump will be just fine.

Anonymous NRO Reader December 31, 2017 6:51 PM  

PizzaGate was a fake conspiracy theory too. Trump must be tanking fast if you retards are grasping at these straws.

Blogger Raoul Sheridan December 31, 2017 6:52 PM  

Interesting how the shills come out in force within the first few comments...
Over the target much?

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 31, 2017 6:53 PM  

Are the rules different for open Sedition and treason? Trials at Gitmo.....or a prolonged Night of the Long Knives?

Blogger Lazarus December 31, 2017 6:57 PM  

I like the anti-MS13 operation with democratic party connections scenario.

Anonymous St Aelred December 31, 2017 6:58 PM  

Love the Brotherhood, Fear God and honor the Emperor!

Anonymous ZhukovG December 31, 2017 6:58 PM  

Gitmo might be used to house indicted persons who require an extraordinary amount of protection. Persons who will be allowed to cut a deal in exchange for testimony pursuant to entry into witness protection.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 31, 2017 6:59 PM  

@11 LonestarWhacko

Funny thing about being outside of US Territory. The President can order a drone strike on you, even as an American citizen.


@10 Raoul Sheridan

It's fascinating, isn't it?

The CIA Director was in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia a few weeks ago, now Iran seems to be in the process of falling. There's a collection of Iranians that the USA has particular interest in executing.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira December 31, 2017 7:00 PM  

The prophecy is true: 2018 will be even better than 2017.
S T I L L N O T T I R E D

Blogger Lazarus December 31, 2017 7:01 PM  

A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon.

MS13 are most likely not citizens.

Anonymous Admiral Leia December 31, 2017 7:03 PM  

If Louise Mensch is to believed (and I believe she is a credible source) then Gitmo will soon be home to all the Russian conspirators, including Drumph himself. Will Russian-paid trolls like Mike Cernovich end up dying in prison along with other Putin stooges? It seems likely.

Blogger Johnny December 31, 2017 7:06 PM  

NRO Reader wrote:PizzaGate was a fake conspiracy theory too. Trump must be tanking fast if you retards are grasping at these straws.

I am just a wait and see guy here. It will happen or it won't and you will be right or you won't.

I am not a fan of military tribunals. They tend to be implicitly rigged just by the circumstance. (I observed one first hand.) But otherwise I am not sure if it is deep state or the Clinton Crime Family, but high level people seem to die unexpectedly waiting for trial. Going by circumstance it would seem far more likely that the suspects will live to get to trial if it is in the hands of the military. Killing people buries a lot of evidence.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) December 31, 2017 7:07 PM  

if it is for American Citizens, especially those residing within the ConUS, then this might be the end of the Dumbocracy.

which, you know, was pretty stupid anyways.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) December 31, 2017 7:09 PM  

oh, and Louise Mensch wants her Misogynist Pigs to be muscular and Austrian, perhaps with a side of Jew.

Louise Mensch is "credible". good one, i like that.

Anonymous ZhukovG December 31, 2017 7:11 PM  

Given the source, this post is attracting unusual amounts of poop. Something hit a nerve?

Anonymous BTC December 31, 2017 7:21 PM  

The Deep State aren't Americans. Some aren't even human.

Blogger Ingot9455 December 31, 2017 7:22 PM  

Whether or not it's a military tribunal, all must admit that holding these trials in Gitmo will tamp down on the usual rioting protests outside the courthouse.

Anonymous Tsalal December 31, 2017 7:22 PM  

@ZhukovG

Indeed, "Such-a Fail" doesn't usually get a wide variety of trolls on it, so definitely something here. Isn't it a Navy Intelligence mouthpiece or the like?

Blogger Anchorman December 31, 2017 7:25 PM  

FFS

Blogger bobby December 31, 2017 7:28 PM  

Trump hasn't cleared the military of sufficient swamp-things to rely on any military tribunals yet. The whole legal structure is still full of feministy, transsexuals-make-the-best-soldiers types.

Blogger Lazarus December 31, 2017 7:28 PM  

If Louise Mensch is to believed (and I believe she is a credible source)

Louise Mensch is clinically insane.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella December 31, 2017 7:30 PM  

Where else would you put these people on trial? Democrats are perfectly comfortable burning down entire cities every time they don't get their way. Which city would you ask to burn next? Not just look the mayor in the eyes, but the citizens owning homes and businesses? They would go bankrupt and homeless for "the greater good'?

We have an uncorrupted military, right? We have internet access, live-streaming video abilities, and wildly dangerous criminals.

For close to twenty years, we've demonstrated that we can run a humane, high profile prison that respects its inmates. Regular soldiers rotate in and out of there, then go home and write essays about the care and respect that the prisoners are treated with. Adjunct professors at community colleges see these essays.

Milgram experiments have been eroticized by lefties to make any prison a BDSM experience, no matter what. It's not true. Milgram did not run a clean experiment with experienced, professional, well-trained staff. He brutalized undergraduates. The rest of the world does not work like a college. It's "town" not "gown."

I applaud Mr Trump's team's thoughtful pursuit of justice.

Blogger Silly but True December 31, 2017 7:42 PM  

@Looking Glass,
I'd bet good money that USNORTHCOM has Predator drones too if the need arose.

Blogger Johnny December 31, 2017 7:45 PM  

"We have an uncorrupted military, right?"

To put a fine point on it, it is not so much if they are corrupt as how they are corrupt. The Clinton Crime Family and deep state don't much like the military. I doubt they have their claws into the individual units. As for prosecutors if it comes to that, I would imagine the president can get who he wants. I am guessing just getting evidence presented in open court is the big deal here.

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis December 31, 2017 7:46 PM  

Me, a few years ago:

"Military tribunals? Bad idea. Could be misused in the wrong hands."

Me, now, after seeing the Deep State/Resist/NeverTrump in action:

"Fuck 'em. Katyn Forest every last one of these fucks. Then piss on their graves."

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 7:59 PM  

Diego Garcia is Gitmo 2. Ha! For European NWO. Known to be 20,000+ pedos in UK alone.

BHO signed a EO that allows the government to hold people without bail or trial for however long, and that was BHO, not Trump. The God Emperor has not, I believe, scrapped that one yet.

Some very high up NWO people reputed to have gotten helicopter ride, or "On bottom of ocean."

Roths "squealing."

Just a slow and measured death to Deep State, death by a thousand cuts. Or no riots. Scott Adams' slow moving train wreck.





Blogger Johnny December 31, 2017 8:00 PM  

"Fuck 'em. Katyn Forest every last one of these fucks. Then piss on their graves."

As comic books make their way into this forum, I will quote the Thing. "It's clobberin time!"

Blogger Lazarus December 31, 2017 8:02 PM  

A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon..


From ACLU website:

December 31, 2011

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: media@dcaclu.org

WASHINGTON – President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law today. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. While President Obama issued a signing statement saying he had “serious reservations” about the provisions, the statement only applies to how his administration would use the authorities granted by the NDAA, and would not affect how the law is interpreted by subsequent administrations. The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA, but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.

“President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law,” said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU executive director. “The statute is particularly dangerous because it has no temporal or geographic limitations, and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield. The ACLU will fight worldwide detention authority wherever we can, be it in court, in Congress, or international


Would not it be delicious if Obama was hoisted on this petard?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 31, 2017 8:03 PM  

@2 Looking Glass
Quite related to this, it really seems that Iran is in the process of falling.
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I just hope this wasn't part of the deep state plan.

On one hand, I recall when there was an uprising, and Obola ignored it.

On the other, I recall seeing a list of states the neocons had put together in a sequential order that they wanted to take down.

Plus, all we need are Iranian refugees flooding Europe.

I hope this is a real uprising of people who want to take their country back from the theocrat revolution.

Blogger Ceerilan December 31, 2017 8:04 PM  

I'm hoping for treason trials. Treason is the only crime specifically laid out in the constitution of the USA...for good reason. It was often the go-to for political enemies of sitting monarchs, back in the day. A treason conviction with America's narrow definition will highlight the danger to civilized society that is the white left.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 31, 2017 8:06 PM  

The smoke sure smells like treason, the good ol' "hang by the neck" kind.

The Watergate break in was a couple of bumbling boneheads. Russiagate is literally high level FBI, DoJ and CIA officials using THE RESOURCES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to attempt to alter the outcome of a presidential election.

This already IS a crisis.

Blogger CynicalMan December 31, 2017 8:13 PM  

Captured ISIS war criminals?

Prospective NorKs?

Afghan captures?

North of the border Drug Zsars?

The list of potentials is endless.

Anonymous DMV December 31, 2017 8:15 PM  

I have said it before that there needs to be the equivalent of the Nuremberg trials to try all the political criminals in our government. If this is indeed the case, it will be too much to fathom. That level of awesomeness does not compute.

Anonymous DMV December 31, 2017 8:19 PM  

President Trump is on a mission. From God. His terrible swift sword is on the down swing. God bless our President.

Anonymous Andrew E. December 31, 2017 8:19 PM  

Just a slow and measured death to Deep State, death by a thousand cuts. Or no riots. Scott Adams' slow moving train wreck.

If so, a full accounting is needed that we don't have to wait years or decades for. Some of us suffered badly damaged longstanding relationships over the 2016 election because we thought it was that important. There are going to be lots of Americans who will need to be able to say 'i told you so', with charity of course.

Blogger Francis The Pope December 31, 2017 8:23 PM  

For such a tribunal to actually go ahead, first a hot civil war has to take place, if not then this tribunal could be the exact cause of igniting the civil war. Either way, to talk about treason or arresting the criminals or draining the swamp are no longer seems to have any real meaning in a nation that will never accept the legitimacy of actions the other side. This applies both to Trump being impeached or arresting Obama and the other head spy chiefs that were trying to remove Trump, both of these can lead straight to civil war.

Blogger CynicalMan December 31, 2017 8:23 PM  

This story has all the signs of being too good to be true and if we have learned anything over the years of being trolled, this is just another example of fake news.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 8:28 PM  

Andrew E. wrote:Just a slow and measured death to Deep State, death by a thousand cuts. Or no riots. Scott Adams' slow moving train wreck.

If so, a full accounting is needed that we don't have to wait years or decades for. Some of us suffered badly damaged longstanding relationships over the 2016 election because we thought it was that important. There are going to be lots of Americans who will need to be able to say 'i told you so', with charity of course.


The full truth cannot come out to everyone until about 2019... because of the nature of this thing, but tons of people want full disclosure this time. I think the critical things will come out in another year.

There are people entrapped, and many more abused by this stuff, that will not come out.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr December 31, 2017 8:31 PM  

Large-scale arrests? Possible. Military tribunals? Less likely, in my opinion. Use of GITMO as a holding tank for detainees that is outside the jurisdiction of Leftists in the judicial system? Damn near certain, given the degree of interference Trump has seen in the last 11 months.

Over the last two weeks, we've seen people start to publicly connect the dots between the Clinton campaign, senior personnel at the FBI and DOJ, and the Obama White House. What we do NOT know is what Sessions may have been doing behind the scenes, what the DOJ IG has been doing with their investigation, and (probably most critical) what NSA has turned up.

2018 promises to be The Year of Justice.

Blogger Uncle Max December 31, 2017 8:33 PM  

I think it is fantasy to think as soon as any high or low profile Democrat is extradited to Gitmo, the DC District court would initiate a constitutional crisis . I mean, we have a Fed judge in Hawaii clearly overstepping his authority in restricting the President... Even if the Obama-signed order would allow it, I just can't see the progressive judiciary not making all sorts of declarative and dire rulings to immediately challenge authority of the executive branch... regardless of the crime... the Democrats would NEVER allow justice to prevail. Treason to them is ok if they achieve their goals. Wait and see. Something is up.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 8:37 PM  

What if, nearly all of the Leftist and Cuck Fed level Judges are up to their necks in the corruption, and lot's of info on that, and tons of people squealing to save what is left of their hides?

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 8:40 PM  

"2018 promises to be The Year of Justice."

Bannon has called 2018, the year of "Savaging."

Blogger Were-Puppy December 31, 2017 8:42 PM  

@10 Raoul Sheridan
Interesting how the shills come out in force within the first few comments...
Over the target much?
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Every time, on every website that I go to.

Anonymous Victor F. Michaelson December 31, 2017 8:43 PM  

A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon.
After seeing civilian trials fall apart because someone can’t define “is”, a no-nonsense military tribune is a welcome relief.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 31, 2017 8:44 PM  

Did you guys notice this at the bottom of the linked article?


"Equally unknown to the vast majority of the American people, too, this report concludes, is that the current “Deep State” coup plot against President Trump is not the first one their nation has faced either—but is, in fact, its second—with the first being in 1933 when the “Deep State” launched the “Business Plot Coup” against President Franklin Roosevelt in order so they could join the United States with the globalist power Nazi Germany—with this coup plot being led by the Nazi-aligned Bush Family—but with this coup being destroyed by US Marine General Smedley Butler—whose mighty shoes US Marine General James “Mad Dog” Mattis now stands in so that he, too, might save his nation."

Blogger Salt December 31, 2017 8:44 PM  

Waiting to see which high level government people suddenly split for overseas.

Blogger Dos Voltz December 31, 2017 8:47 PM  

The left had a coniption fit over the very existence of GITMO and Barry's stated intention to "end" GITMO was part of the reason he got elected and awarded the Nobel Participation Trophy.

The left actually wanted Khalid Sheik Fuckin Muhammed to get a civil trial in New York, where he could get "fairness" at a cost of tens of millions to the American taxpayer, since GITMO was such a medieval hell hole.

For that reason I have to believe that the many new GITMO arrivals are likely people we never heard of. Low level terrorists and pedophiles/human traffickers. But if upper echelon democrats like Podestas, Wasserman-Schulz, or FBI traitors like McCabe, Ohr or Strzok (and in my dreams BHO and Hillary) then yes, we would have civil war. The left would absolutely lose their minds and start torching everything.

I for one would welcome it, but I don't think Trump or the admin has that in mind. So it's all gonna be on the down-low.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 8:49 PM  

"Fantasy Land" is what people who do not believe this are in, and not the "Conspiracy Theorists." This has to happen now or NWO will destroy humanity. They had, and have, intentions beyond belief, and they are totally evil.

"State of Emergency" is one way of putting it, the secret WWIII, might be another. No argument though, we shall see.

Amusing, some of the people talking about "helicopter rides" earlier, developed... muh principles.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 31, 2017 8:54 PM  

@36 dc.sunsets
This already IS a crisis.
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And they continue to rig elections before our very eyes - like Alabama recently.

Blogger SteelPalm December 31, 2017 8:55 PM  

Would be wonderful if true, but I don't want to get my hopes up too much.

Remember the countless stories about a serious attempt to impeach Obama for his crimes, or how Hillary would be convicted and in jail?

I'm not dismissing this as untrue, though. Too many strange things I would have never believed if someone predicted them in early 2015 happened in 2016 and 2017.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 9:01 PM  

"I'm not dismissing this as untrue, though. Too many strange things I would have never believed if someone predicted them in early 2015 happened in 2016 and 2017."

Settin' on that fence can pinch. Ton's of circumstantial evidence, and the heroes job is to alter history's (fate's?) path.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 31, 2017 9:11 PM  

@10  Take a look at the URL of the name in @9, and get new batteries for your satire detector.  Also see @18.

Anonymous Avalanche December 31, 2017 9:17 PM  

@5 A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon.

Maybe not, if it's a military tribunal for TREASON!

Blogger SteelPalm December 31, 2017 9:17 PM  

@56 tuberman

I'm a mathematician by education, so I judge these situations far more quantitatively than what I put into words. In reality, it's more like "25% chance of being true in some form, 5% chance of involving high-profile Swamp names".

But I'm okay with fence-sitting; these political intrigues are all unbelievably murky, and any unconnected observer who claims they know for certain what is going to happen is either a fool or a liar.

Anonymous JI December 31, 2017 9:18 PM  

Thanks for linking to this website, Vox, it's fun. I love the headlines. For example, "Clinton Now Ready To Unleash Her Riotous Mobs—Hundreds Of American Cities Warned Will Fall", and '“Playing With God” Ignites Kangaroo Apocalypse In Australia As Death Toll Soars Over 21 Million'.

Here's my favorite: "Russia Issues First In History “Planet Killer” Alert—Warns World Has Only Two Years Left". The story makes the claim that the production of bitcoins will, in two years time, consume all of the energy production of the world, rendering civilization impossible.

Anonymous Avalanche December 31, 2017 9:19 PM  

@18 If Louise Mensch is to believed (and I believe she is a credible source) then Gitmo will soon be home to all the Russian conspirators,

They let her have an internet connection in her cell at GITMO? Interesting!

Blogger Odin Indaway December 31, 2017 9:22 PM  

I think soon the geo political stage switches from North American orientation; to Europe and the Middle East. This could happen virtually overnight with a one/two punch of extreme activity at the Yellowstone Caldera and the New Madrid Fault line. Martial law anyone?

Blogger Kevin Rogers December 31, 2017 9:24 PM  

Depolying 4 dozen MPs to guard a prison where the guards are deployed seems pretty routine to me.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 9:27 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:@56 tuberman

I'm a mathematician by education, so I judge these situations far more quantitatively than what I put into words. In reality, it's more like "25% chance of being true in some form, 5% chance of involving high-profile Swamp names".

But I'm okay with fence-sitting; these political intrigues are all unbelievably murky, and any unconnected observer who claims they know for certain what is going to happen is either a fool or a liar.


Wow, wish we could get together for a bet, as in would you give me 200-1 odds that HRC will escape execution. Me taking the side that she will be executed before 2020?

Anonymous Avalanche December 31, 2017 9:28 PM  

@45 " mean, we have a Fed judge in Hawaii clearly overstepping his authority in restricting the President.."

Unless he's already IN GITMO! (fingers crossed!)

Blogger pyrrhus December 31, 2017 9:30 PM  

The tribunal is Fine! And I can think of a lot of Federal judges who could gain valuable training with a trip to Gitmo.....

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2017 9:31 PM  

SteelPalm,

Get back to me tomorrow, I need sleep.

Blogger pyrrhus December 31, 2017 9:32 PM  

@61 Louise Mensch may prove to be an interesting witness, if she isn't shot trying to escape....

Blogger LP9 December 31, 2017 9:33 PM  

Hilarious!

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 31, 2017 9:34 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:Use of GITMO as a holding tank for detainees that is outside the jurisdiction of Leftists in the judicial system? Damn near certain
Let's hope that GITMO is currently being used to detain seditionists OF the judicial system.  (I see @65 got INB4 me.)

Uncle Max wrote:I mean, we have a Fed judge in Hawaii clearly overstepping his authority in restricting the President...
Him and the clowns of the Ninth Circus Court of Appals.

Were-Puppy wrote:Did you guys notice this at the bottom of the linked article?
Yes, I did.  And right they were, given what Patton was forced to conclude after the Allies triumphed.  We beat the wrong enemy, and FDR was a traitor.

Blogger Michael Neal December 31, 2017 9:35 PM  

Hillary executed? There's too much crack smoking going on in here, I am optimistic about Trump but I will wait and see about all of this storm stuff. I do think there will be some crackdowns but people's imaginations are running wild.

Anonymous Avalanche December 31, 2017 9:48 PM  

@62 I think soon the geo political stage switches from North American orientation; to Europe and the Middle East. This could happen virtually overnight with a one/two punch of extreme activity at the Yellowstone Caldera and the New Madrid Fault line. Martial law anyone?

We're currently in a "solar hibernation" -- few or no sunspots. One worriesome "connection" with previous solar minimums (Maunder and Dalton and Wolf and etc. https://infogalactic.com/info/Solar_minimum)

Also, commenter here posted: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/11/monster-solar-minimum-approaching/ (NMFZ = New Madrid Fault Zone and GSM - Grand Solar Minimum)

That is when I came across info on the New Madrid Fault Zone in further reading. Along with that I noticed the correlation between large quakes striking the NMFZ and GSM/Gleissberg periods. It was apparent to me that the probability for large quakes as well as large volcanic eruptions increased during the time of a GSM or Gleissberg event. Being that we should be close to the next Gleissberg, and possibly the next GSM then it would not be surprising for a large quake on the NMFZ, or elsewhere in the active quake zones around the planet.

There is a pretty clear historical/prehistorical association of solar minimums with increased (large) earthquakes and (large) volcanic eruptions.

OOPS!

Anonymous Avalanche December 31, 2017 9:52 PM  

(Good interview here: "Former NASA & White House Advisor Warns of Earthquakes, Volcanic Eruptions & New Madrid Event" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5aDNrlopA

Or read here: https://action.larouchepac.com/solar_grand_minima_the_new_madrid_seismic_zone
In the basement, we began to discuss other things which have been correlated with changes and solar activity, and earthquakes came to mind. In recent years, we had seen several studies, one Japanese study in particular, which looked at the relationship between strong earthquakes and the activity of the Sun as it enters its minimum phase. This study concluded that it appeared that the number of strong earthquakes globally increased during solar minima.

An additional more recent and specific study also piqued our interest--a paper published in 2015 in the Journal “Concepts in Global Tectonics” by John Casey and Dong Choi -- which looked specifically at earthquakes in the New Madrid Seismic Zone in the United States, and deep solar minima.

Anonymous Avalanche December 31, 2017 9:57 PM  

@70 "Him and the clowns of the Ninth Circus Court of Appals."

Dja see one of the Ninth judges has been forced out for sexual misconduct of some sort? awww poor guy. (NOT!)

Blogger newbietrader December 31, 2017 10:00 PM  

an American Nuremburg?, but you guys aren't alt reich....just add this to your "white nationalism", bigotry and antisemitism a la 1930s Nazi Germany

Blogger newbietrader December 31, 2017 10:03 PM  

yo Vox.

you were all pro FREEEEDUUUUMMMBBBB for Scotland and Catalonia, why are you silent on the revolution in Iran? oh right, its a jewish plot to take down an islamofascist regime. and we can't suport the CIA/JOOOOOOOOOS

Blogger Stilicho December 31, 2017 10:08 PM  

Louise Mensch-strate "credible"? I have a bridge for sale... great location... reasonable price...

Blogger SteelPalm December 31, 2017 10:53 PM  

@64 tuberman

Wow, wish we could get together for a bet, as in would you give me 200-1 odds that HRC will escape execution. Me taking the side that she will be executed before 2020?

So if you bet $1, you win $200 if it happens? Heh, it's incredibly unlikely, even with the pace of history continuing to accelerate, but those odds are too long. But at 50-1 I would accept it, and at 100-1 I would consider it.

Anonymous Mike Rock December 31, 2017 10:58 PM  

@14, Zukhov,
I was wondering last night, do the deals the FBI cut with various folk hold if they get magickally transported to Gitmo? Since they are now combatants, do the rules change?

God bless, and Happy New Year

Mike

Blogger Thucydides December 31, 2017 11:01 PM  

I suspect a more immediate source of fear is the current unrest in Iran. Should the Iranians overthrow the theocrats, then the opening of the archives will reveal a lot of dirt from the Obama Administration, including what those huge payouts were for, and why the Obama Administration was so willing to look the other way as Hesbollah moved in and operated a huge drug dealing ring in America.

Anonymous Lord of the Fleas December 31, 2017 11:16 PM  

Interesting ... 79 comments in and no-one has taken note of the fact that the Russians have a "General Staff Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova". A female deputy minister? - yeah, the Russians aren't all that swayed by PC and quotas and such, so why not? ...

Anonymous Just another commenter December 31, 2017 11:33 PM  

Justice takes many forms. They'd rather be in Gitmo, I expect, than have this solution applied to them:
http://www.neonnettle.com/news/3398-pedophile-priest-with-hiv-who-raped-30-children-found-crucified-outside-church

Short version of what appear to be the facts: Mexican Catholic HIV+ priest raped and infected ~30 children. Vatican forgave him, moved him to a different parish. Locals put a price on his head, a drug cartel moved to collect. He was stripped, beaten, genitals removed and placed in mouth, hot road tar poured over his head (while he was still alive, apparently), crucified.

Can't say they were not thorough.

Police spokesman said "We might as well chalk this case up as a suicide." (i.e., nobody is going to talk about it).

Depressing to think Spanish Catholics had to turn to the drug cartels for justice after being failed by the Church. But if formal avenues of justice fail, alternatives will be found eventually.

Anonymous Mike Rock December 31, 2017 11:38 PM  

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiWmfzb97XYAhXCiFQKHdkbBP4QFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTatiana_Shevtsova&usg=AOvVaw2oaCCaciuaFzRr8c3D3TTI

There ya go.... Wiki is your friend Could not find her on Infogalactic, sorry

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 31, 2017 11:40 PM  

https://nypost.com/2017/12/31/new-york-family-among-victims-in-deadly-costa-rica-plane-crash/

(((Steinberg))) and (((Weiss)))

Anonymous Jack Amok December 31, 2017 11:41 PM  

Dja see one of the Ninth judges has been forced out for sexual misconduct of some sort? awww poor guy. (NOT!)

Actually, he was one of the saner ones on that court.


Now, regarding how likely this Nuremtanamo scenario is, seems pretty hard to believe. Of course, so was tranny bathrooms. Then when you think of how quickly Rome went from a functional republic to Marius and Sulla slaughtering each other's supporters, well...

Blogger SteelPalm January 01, 2018 12:22 AM  

Yeah, as Jack Amok noted, the 9th Circuit Judge who resigned over sexual misconduct allegations (and idiotically apologized to boot) was actually a right-winger who the SJWs wanted to force out for some time.

Conservative sites and folks who celebrate this (reflexively thinking 9th Circuit automatically equals leftist, when in actuality, leftists merely outnumber right-wingers there) as a positive development merely expose their own stupidity.

@83

The surname "Weiss" can actually go either way (Bernhard Weiss, for instance, was a noted German Protestant scholar), although they're more likely Jewish since they're from New York. More importantly, what is the point of posting about this plane crash?

Anonymous Wooly New Year January 01, 2018 12:41 AM  

I see, in that first picture of the alleged "850th Military Police Battalion", two gals and a dindoo right up front, taking a knee.

I hope this crew can make this work, even so.

Justice would be really neat to see again in America. I'm like one of the Hawaiian kids I met in church one winter who had never seen snow. From what I'm told by folks who are now dead from old age, America once had Justice.

Blogger Lazarus January 01, 2018 12:52 AM  

yo Vox.

you were all pro FREEEEDUUUUMMMBBBB for Scotland and Catalonia, why are you silent on the revolution in Iran? oh right, its a jewish plot to take down an islamofascist regime. and we can't suport the CIA/JOOOOOOOOOS


The Full Wolf Moon is actually not till tomorrow night. I know it looks full now, cuz I went outside earlier, but it is actually tomorrow.

Pace yourself.

Blogger Koanic January 01, 2018 12:53 AM  

> Spanish Catholics had to turn to the drug cartels for justice after being failed by the Church.

Same business. Largely same god, even.

Blogger Lazarus January 01, 2018 12:56 AM  

@86

America once had Justice.

Get a rope.

But seriously, that is poetic and needs to be repeated often.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore January 01, 2018 1:09 AM  

I'm late to the party. Happy New Year party people! At any rate....

Trump declares martial law as per executive order which allows for civilians to be tried in military courts. The 850th is deployed to GITMO.

Someone probably wrote this already and if so, I apologize for repeating what was already posted.

Blogger vorlos January 01, 2018 1:16 AM  

Ninth circuit judge was ((appointed)) by Reagan and was one of the youngest ever put on the bench. Gee how about that. Related to holocaust survivors. Surprise, surprise. His depredations were well known for years but his law clerks always got top jobs! Another surprise. Law clerks who land cushy jobs in firms get $300,000 bonus upon hire. Gee, his clerks all did so well and so did his lawyer son. How did all that happen so smoothly and easily? Tribal help much? His name is Alex Kozinski. Keep giving them top appointments ppl.



Blogger Were-Puppy January 01, 2018 1:21 AM  

@81 Just another commenter

I hate to break this to you, but neon nettle is almost always fake news.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 01, 2018 1:24 AM  

@87 Lazarus
The Full Wolf Moon is actually not till tomorrow night.
---

I'll have to lock myself into the basement again.

Blogger weka January 01, 2018 1:27 AM  

The Persians will take care of their own.
Creatively.
They do believe punishments should be... Unusual.

Blogger Kona Commuter January 01, 2018 1:29 AM  

Lazarus wrote:@86

America once had Justice.

Get a rope.

But seriously, that is poetic and needs to be repeated often.


In the early days of the motor vehicle, drivers who injured pedestrians were often strung up on the spot by bystanders.

Blogger Bob Loblaw January 01, 2018 1:32 AM  

johnc wrote:A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon.



Depends on the charges and on the defendant. A naturalized citizen from Pakistan caught heading up an IED team in Afghanistan? People will cheer.

If I had my way Lindh would have been hanged after a short trial in theater. Wouldn't even have wasted the fuel to get him to Cuba. I recognize the need for JAG, but sometimes it seems they're actually in charge.

Anonymous Son of Bane January 01, 2018 1:34 AM  

WTF happened to VoxPopuli???

Blogger S. Thermite January 01, 2018 1:48 AM  

Happy New Year Vox, and my elder, smarter brethren in the Dread Ilk! Keep Shit Posting Real! #MAGAforTheGE #NotTired #TheRideNeverEnds

Anonymous Looking Glass January 01, 2018 3:37 AM  

@85 SteelPalm

Yeah, they pulled an attempted Fake News on Alex Kozinski before that didn't work, but there seemed enough there for this attack on him to work. Though I believe he was already on Senior status, so he wasn't involved in a lot of cases anymore.

As for the plane crash, it's generally a bad idea to be in a light aircraft if you're politically connected and someone wants you gone. Any time there is people with either money or influence that get wiped out in a crash in a smaller plane, you start to get suspicious.

One student at Columbia and some Columbia graduates among the dead. CIA? They've historically recruited heavily from the school, or it could just be a tragic accident and everyone is angels.

Blogger Unknown January 01, 2018 3:43 AM  

It will b a purging of all opposition.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 01, 2018 4:29 AM  

Son of BaneJanuary 01, 2018 1:34 AM
WTF happened to VoxPopuli???

Why not go ask them, liar?

Anonymous Looking Glass January 01, 2018 4:30 AM  

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-seaplane/compass-group-chief-five-others-dead-in-sydney-seaplane-crash-idUSKBN1EQ0O3

CEO of Compass Group Plc, the world’s biggest catering firm, and four of his close family members were among the six people who died when the seaplane they were traveling in crashed into Sydney river on New Year’s Eve.

http://infogalactic.com/info/Compass_Group

Compass is in food services and just happens to be the contractor that handles the US Senate. Not joking.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/22/i-am-a-cook-in-the-us-senate-but-i-still-need-food-stamps-to-feed-my-children?CMP=share_btn_tw

The CEO, Richard Cousins, probably isn't worth billions (just 10s or 100s of millions), but we've got another ultra wealthy dead. This one is the CEO of a company involved in all sorts of bribery issues and deals with food service the world over.

http://go.compass-usa.com/proskauer/content/about.asp

It's a little out of date on the things they've done professionally, but...

Some of the high-profile events that Catering by Restaurant Associates has catered recently have included the National Design Awards Gala, the William Clinton Foundation Gala, film and television premieres (including HBO’s John Adams and the latest Harry Potter movie), The Kennedy Center Honors and First Lady Laura Bush's Global Literacy event.

The deceased CEO was on the Royal Bank of Scotland's board for a few years. (It's a normal bank, not a Central Bank, but still a big, big player.) There doesn't seem too much else of an Internet trail for his activities, but this is still one of those things that makes you go "hmmm".

Hopefully it's just a tragic accident.

Anonymous zebedee January 01, 2018 5:43 AM  

You're too short for this bus. Nurenburg was a tribunal that put Nazis on trial.

Anonymous RobertL January 01, 2018 6:30 AM  

Some commentators think that high-level detainees could lead to the left torching everything. What could they torch? Their own neighborhoods. Their own businesses. Their own campuses ... And nothing of value was lost. Bring it. HNY

Anonymous 8859 ways ro be adorable January 01, 2018 8:48 AM  

I hope the lefty trash enjoys sharing cells with Jihadis who used to saw off heads of Christian school girls on their way to classes.

They should have a lot to discuss.

Anonymous 8859 ways ro be adorable January 01, 2018 9:00 AM  

I was once reliably informed, by a man who was well paid to start and fight them, that you really, really don't want to live in a country engaged in civil war. It truly sucks.

Anonymous Redjack January 01, 2018 9:07 AM  

They do indeed.

Anonymous RedJack January 01, 2018 9:15 AM  

Indoor plumbing, heat, electricity, food, all these nice things go away once the balloon goes up. Becareful what you wish for

Anonymous Hrw-500 January 01, 2018 9:57 AM  

That guy, Benjamin Fulford, think who could be the persons who goes to Gitmo.

Meanwhile Kim's button is on his desk....

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 01, 2018 10:14 AM  

"you really, really don't want to live in a country engaged in civil war"

Suck as it will, there are times when current circumstances are more intolerable.

That you talked to someone who "was paid to start and fight them" leads me to think you talked to someone who caused color revolutions or somesuch, in which case those civil wars really didn't need to happen. Obviously a civil war that doesn't need to happen is going to suck.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 01, 2018 10:19 AM  

So I read some on treason, sedition and the NDAA. NDAA is the blunt object that will be used in this situation. Even the left's pet ACLU doesn't like it. It is perfect for this situation and whoever gets caught may never go to trial, they could just be held at GITMO or an unknown rendition center and never be seen again. In practice Trump could use NDAA much like MBS is in SA to shake down these cock suckers and totally asset strip them. No money, no power.

All of this is in play with Trump's 12/21 state of emergency which is NOT fake news.

Anonymous BBGKB January 01, 2018 10:31 AM  

A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon.

Perhaps dual citizens having their US citizenship striped. Remember operation wetback removed the citizenship of fake-Americans.

"Fuck 'em. Katyn Forest every last one of these fucks. Then piss on their graves."

We need enough of the facts against them to come out, even if the kid parts are pixilated.

Nuremtanamo scenario is, seems pretty hard to believe. Of course, so was tranny bathrooms.

Not only that but the public advocate for NC tranny bathrooms was a convicted sex offender.

Indoor plumbing, heat, electricity, food, all these nice things go away once the balloon goes up

You can prep for that

Blogger Akulkis January 01, 2018 10:50 AM  

@5
"A military tribunal for US citizens held in Guantanamo? That'll fly like a lead balloon."

Depends on the charges.
And the evidence.

If it's Treason/Sedition, lending material aid to enemies of the US, or enemies of Allies

AND the evidence is solid

AND if it's shown to be particularly devious (i.e. circuitous funding routes, etc., use of cut-outs, etc.).

Blogger Akulkis January 01, 2018 10:58 AM  

@18

You believe Louise Mensch?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaahahhaahaha.

I get more credible information from my dog that died 5 years ago.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 01, 2018 10:59 AM  

And if there's any child sex slavery and abuse. I think and hope most citizens would turn on them for that regardless of ideology.

Blogger Akulkis January 01, 2018 11:24 AM  

@46

"What if, nearly all of the Leftist and Cuck Fed level Judges are up to their necks in the corruption,"

Why do you write that as if it's a hypothetical?

Blogger Ken Prescott January 01, 2018 11:45 AM  

Vox . . . when has Sorcha Faal ever reported something that actually came to pass?

Anonymous St Aelred January 01, 2018 12:47 PM  

@116...it's rotten meat for the VFM...it makes them ready for war

Anonymous SaltHarvest January 01, 2018 1:41 PM  

Ken Prescott wrote:Vox . . . when has Sorcha Faal ever reported something that actually came to pass?

I was thinking similar thoughts about the need for corroborating sources.

Anonymous FrankNorman January 01, 2018 2:01 PM  

75. newbietrader December 31, 2017 10:03 PM

yo Vox.

you were all pro FREEEEDUUUUMMMBBBB for Scotland and Catalonia, why are you silent on the revolution in Iran? oh right, its a jewish plot to take down an islamofascist regime. and we can't suport the CIA/JOOOOOOOOOS


Not the same sort of thing.
Those were both secession/independence movements, whereas the Iran situation is not.

Also, where has Vox ever implied he thinks that Jews have anything to do with it?

Blogger TM Lutas January 01, 2018 9:55 PM  

Tatiana Shevtsova is listed as a top twenty wealthy Russian siloviki by Forbes magazine. She came up through tax investigations (says Wikipedia). In other words, her expertise is in finding the money.

This is not someone who you would expect would be talking about Russian intelligence reports regarding internal US security operations.

This does not smell right.

Anonymous Mike Rock January 01, 2018 11:18 PM  

TM Lutas...... finances is exactly what most of these guys are involved in. She would be following events carefully and the Russians DO have their networks here..

I wonder too, but this smells better to me.

Happy New Year to all.

Mie

Anonymous Paul January 02, 2018 12:06 AM  

Seems like fake news. Under Posse Comitatus, the armed services can't be used as law enforcement against US citizens, except in very specific circumstances.

Espionage trials, for example, are tried in federal courts.

To my knowledge, exceptions are made for terrorism cases and that's about it.

Blogger Akulkis January 02, 2018 1:05 AM  

@80 Lord of the Fleas

"Interesting ... 79 comments in and no-one has taken note of the fact that the Russians have a "General Staff Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova". A female deputy minister? - yeah, the Russians aren't all that swayed by PC and quotas and such, so why not? ..."

You obviously have never known Russian women, or studied Russian military history. In contrast to Western European women, Russian women are doers, not whiners, and they generally think of feminism for weak and inept women. Many will show up for job interviews wearing a bikini -- and sexual harassment lawsuits are unheard of in Russia.

As to your comment about Russian Deputy Defense Minister being female:

Under Czar Nicholas (who, with his family, was assassinated in a basement in Yekaterinburg during the revolutions), during WW1, thousands of Russian women formed up in large groups and went to recruiting stations. They were formed into segregated regiments, with male officers. MANY were decorated for valor and/or heroism. Several were field commissioned. At least one was promoted to battalion commander -- while home on leave, she went on recruiting drives to enlist more women into her regiment.

During WW2, Russian women served in the following combat MOSs.
Infantry (Including first line infantry)
Snipers
Night fighter pilots
Night bomber pilots and crew
Tank crews

(There is the story of one tank crew which consisted of 2 men and their wives. The story is NOT considered apocryphal, as NOBODY in Russia believes it to be unusual).

The Russian experience with women combatants can be summarized as follows:

All-famele Infantry units -- not desirable due to command and control issues. But the reason why is one you would not expect: Unlike male infantry units, when told to halt and attack and withdraw (so as to prepare for some other, important, upcoming operation, or just to get some rest), female units WOULD NOT BREAK CONTACT until every opposing German/Axis soldier in their unit's "lane" was confirmed dead.

Snipers. Russian female snipers proved to be generally more patient than men when laying in wait to ambush a target. Marksmanship skills slightly better (women's bodies give them a natural advantage when shooting, both when laying in the prone, and when making an off-hand shot from the standing position. Lower center of gravity).

The female pilots flying night missions: It can be summarized by the German's response. The Germans ground troops and aircrew feared Russian female air units. They were known throughout the German army as "Night Witches" -- and it was not derogetory. More along the lines of US Troops in Vietnam, who, when facing well-performing Viet Cong, would refer to them as "Mr. Charles" as opposed to "Charlie".

Unlike American female officers in our Army and Marine Corps, Russian women weren't demanding to be in the infantry for "faster promotion," they joined the infantry TO FIGHT.

In short, the martial history of Russian women in the 20th century has EARNED them a place at the table. The Russian population is descended from the Scythians. Note another tribe from the same area in which the women are also performing very well as combatants -- The Kurds.

I have visited Russia several times. In the late 1990's, a lot of WW2 vets were still alive. They would carefully pin their medals on whatever coat they were wearing for the day

Anyways, in both St. Petersburg, and Moscow, it was common at that time to come across a woman wearing the Order of Lenin Medal, or either of the Order of the Patriotic War Medal (1st class or 2nd class).

And yet, they're still feminine.

Anonymous CloseHauled January 02, 2018 4:49 AM  

Paul: Seems like fake news. Under Posse Comitatus, the armed services can't be used as law enforcement against US citizens, except in very specific circumstances.

Espionage trials, for example, are tried in federal courts.

To my knowledge, exceptions are made for terrorism cases and that's about it.


The Hunt for Red October? Torpedo'ed by your own torpedo? The MegaAnon
screen shot here is interesting:
https://twitter.com/NotGlobalism/status/948077532007374848

It lays out who could get a vacation at Gitmo

Blogger Akulkis January 02, 2018 12:07 PM  

@99

Columbia University is filth. I've never known, or even heard of, a graduate from Columbia whose leftist activities, actions, and views were utterly detestable and incompatible with American ideals.

Blogger Akulkis January 02, 2018 12:14 PM  

@105

Regarding the unpleasantness of living in a country during a civil war.

I don't want to live through a long, drawn out war in my own country. I've lived 2 years overseas in warzones. Yes, it sucks.

But the Phoenix does not rise until AFTER the cleansing fire.

America NEEDS a totally consuming fire to eliminate leftism. It is the ONLY possible path to long-term survival. Any other victory is merely a temporary setback in the left's "2-steps forward, 1-step back" game.

Speaking of Forward, that word is one of the left's favorite, especially the Jewish left.
ANYTHING named "Forward" and especially "The Forward" (or the local equivalent, such as "Preved" in Russian) is to be regarded as hostile until proven otherwise.

Anonymous 4Chan Moderator January 02, 2018 7:38 PM  

Q has been compromised. His entire operation has been uncovered. The globalists will be making their mark. Everyone, exercise extreme caution. Even talking about an "American Nuremburg" jeopardizes your safety. You are being watched...

Blogger Lazarus January 02, 2018 10:30 PM  

Columbia University is filth. I've never known, or even heard of, a graduate from Columbia whose leftist activities, actions, and views were utterly detestable and incompatible with American ideals.

Columbia is where the Frankfurt school went when they got expelled from Germany.

Blogger Lazarus January 02, 2018 11:03 PM  

4Chan Moderator January 02, 2018 7:38 PM
Q has been compromised. His entire operation has been uncovered


I heard that on November 13th on the YouTubes. Everything is Schrodinger's information 24/7.

If you can't handle it, turn that shit off.


Blogger Akulkis January 04, 2018 12:56 AM  

Espionage trials are in civilian court during peacetime. We have been in a shooting ear since 2001. That changes everything.

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