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Thursday, December 28, 2017

Even being a woman in tech won't help

An actual female programmer discovers that actually being a woman who genuinely works in tech doesn't protect you from Tech SJWs once you violate the Narrative:
To be clear, right from the start: I never actually did anything wrong. I didn’t egregiously violate any codes of conduct. (Quite frankly, even if I had, I have no idea how, why, or when it might have happened, since my “accusers” refuse to tell me.) My only “crime” is being an outspoken, albeit moderate, conservative who doesn’t prescribe to the radical feminist narrative of many women in STEM groups. I’ve questioned some of their talking points and, at times, I’ve vehemently disagreed with some of their views, but I nonetheless support their mission of supporting and advocating for women in technology.

By telling the story of how I got mercilessly smeared and ostracized by the leadership and members of two prominent women in tech groups, Women Who Code and Google’s Women Techmakers, my hope is to encourage other people to speak up and to fight back if they’re the victims of bullying. It’s important to recognize that women can, and do, bully each other, and in the tech industry, it is unfortunately a problem that is all too often ignored and even denied, because other factors like racial bias, sexism, and even sexual harassment are typically blamed for an unfavorable attrition rate of women in tech.
The thing is, it's all nonsense. Very few women actually want to work in tech, and even fewer will want to do so surrounded by foreign H1B Gammas and Omegas imported by the tech giants. But it is a salutary lesson in learning that no one who violates the Narrative is off limits, no matter what victim cards you can play.

If anything, SJWs crack down even harder on women and other victim classes who refuse to accept their victimhood, because no one is more threatening to the SJWs' right to speak on their behalf.

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60 Comments:

Blogger Lazy Hero December 28, 2017 1:40 PM  

The worst "women" I've worked with in tech have been land whales, enraged Moby Dickettes. These women hoard power and love to lord it over everyone else. Best to avoid.

Blogger Ingot9455 December 28, 2017 1:44 PM  

Let one slave off the plantation, pretty soon they'll all be runnin' off.

Blogger weka December 28, 2017 1:47 PM  

Not just tech. @LazyHero. I agree with Steve about nurse managers, who are unfirable, the size of blue whales, and try to microregulate all behaviour.

They have defined professionalism as adhering to the narrative. And encourage a culture of entitlement for patients that now means that complaints are frequent, meaningless, and discourage patient safety.

Blogger JACIII December 28, 2017 1:50 PM  

Ingot9455 wrote:Let one slave off the plantation, pretty soon they'll all be runnin' off.

This.

Blogger tublecane December 28, 2017 1:56 PM  

"I didn't egregiously violate any codes of conduct"

How can she say that? Aren't those things designed so that anyone can be in egregious violation anytime authorities desire?

Anonymous DaveInjustice December 28, 2017 2:03 PM  

Johnny Con is at it again. I guess he can't help exposing his posterior and begging his betters to punish him..

@Scalzi John Scalzi
Today I learned there was a period of English/Normandy history simply called "The Anarchy":

https://t.co/TjzABu4fbt

[Insert your joke about our current day being similar here]

@truthnsausages
Yea, funny how large invasions of disparate groups create power struggles...

Anonymous Magna Carta December 28, 2017 2:05 PM  

10-15 years ago, I worked in a company with a number of woman techs who were completely normal and competent. There was no SJW nonsense there. One woman, Sue, had a cartoon poster in her cubicle of a rat in a very messy room with the quote, "Rathole? It's SUPPOSED to be a rathole!"

Blogger Mats December 28, 2017 2:09 PM  

"If anything, SJWs crack down even harder on women and other victim classes who refuse to accept their victimhood, because no one is more threatening to the SJWs' right to speak on their behalf."

And that is one of the reasons you, VD, as a American—Indian, are so enfuriating to those who wish to turn you into a full 1488 White.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 28, 2017 2:09 PM  

Women can never be happy in tech because very high-ability people will always have an antifragile niche at the top, and high ability in tech correlates strongly with low male SMV. Contrast with politics and sales, where high ability correlates strongly with high male SMV. (This will remain true until neanderthals retake the world...don't hold your breath.)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 28, 2017 2:10 PM  

Oh that is BS there Vox, it is under good ney great authority that womyn just love them some strong men of color.

Hell if I am a tech giant I would advertise the eff out the fact that future Polly Programmers will be working side by side with diverse men of color, they will fighting of the b*tches.

Blogger Shimshon December 28, 2017 2:13 PM  

I've mentioned this story before. In college (late 1980s), I knew a very geeky woman. Quite smart, and had decent geek cred. Probably more genuinely talented and competent than any woman in tech today. Got a job in no time at Go Corp, then the hottest place to work in Silicon Valley. She hated Mountain View, and was years ahead of her time by commuting from San Francisco.

Within a year she completely burned out. Hated tech, quit her job, and started teaching kindergarten.

Given that most MEN don't belong in tech (it takes a certain type to enjoy sitting in front of a computer every day for hours on end), the idea that women should be steered in that direction or encouraged in any way is abuse.

Blogger wreckage December 28, 2017 2:14 PM  

Ain't nobody meaner to women, than women.

Blogger wreckage December 28, 2017 2:19 PM  

And while Vox denies that his hierarchy applies to women, the Gamma category transcends all boundaries. Bet there's even Gamma dogs out there.

Blogger tublecane December 28, 2017 2:19 PM  

@10-Your ads would have to lie, showing some tall, ripped colored dudes who'd never be caught working in technology. But I suppose dishonest advertising isn't

People overrate how much women like swarthiness or benightedness, despite the tall, dark stranger thing. Like everyone else, they're attracted to what's familiar. But insofar as they are hot for the Other (certainly they are more than men, who are attracted to the fairness), they're not hot for Dot Indian programmers.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 28, 2017 2:26 PM  

Tublecane you are a harsher of mellows a killer of fun, you must be a conservative.

An idea for the next Google womyn in tech job fair, male strippers rubbing up on a keyboard or something, yah that's the ticket.

Back in the day I knew two women who did rather well in coding they worked for EDS and Arthur Anderson and from what I knew of coding (nothing really) it seemed like a good job for a woman. They made huge money fwiw

Anonymous Iacobus December 28, 2017 2:29 PM  

I correspond with women at a software company whose name I won't post here. (I beta test particular software.) They range in age from maybe upper 30's to around 60 or so. So far, they've been nothing but professional but I'm on the outside so I don't know what goes on inside.

A fellow contributor/tester is another story. Back during the election, she was all anti-Trump as all get out and stated that Hillary was her girl. She stated later on that she made fun of both Trump and Clinton equally. (A lie if I ever saw one.)

I would also say this can extend to the opposite sex as well. In one promo video, a user of said software had a little button on his lapel that read, "I didn't vote for Trump." Yeah? Who cares and who asked you? It's like that idiot at a recent, local agricultural fair (who happened to be black) wearing a "Miss me yet?" t-shirt that had Obama on it. Now that's original and never been done before! (*cough* Bush *cough*)

Anonymous BBGKB December 28, 2017 2:34 PM  

And encourage a culture of entitlement for patients that now means that complaints are frequent, meaningless, and discourage patient safety

When I first heard about giving gift baskets to complainers I asked if I could get one for the complaint of not getting a gift basket. Purple hair woman no laugh.

Blogger SouthRon December 28, 2017 2:35 PM  

"surrounded by foreign H1B Gammas and Omegas imported by the tech giants"

I hadn't even considered the sociosexual status of most of my coworkers, but it is a sad statement that one should relish working with the rare delta in tech. They are normal, stable and competent without all of the idiosyncratic quirks that go with gammas and omegas.

The occasional highly talented sigma isn't a problem, just leave them alone and let them do their job the way they do it and for God's sake don't try to force them into TDD, pair programming or any of that low-aptitude CYA crap.

If you're a manager or team leader and you can't get rid of the omegas, it's a good idea to give them something to focus on that will retain their attention and protect the rest of your more normal team members from having to deal with them. Gammas may be annoying as hell, but Omega's can be downright scary, if not recognized and managed properly. Even then, don't trust them out of your sight.

They best kind of women in tech are those that recognize they are not the cream of the crop and are willing to do workman's labor for reasonable pay without expecting huge amounts of recognition, promotion or leadership opportunities. The worst I have seen are those in leadership that want to reshape the world. Duck and cover.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 28, 2017 2:43 PM  

I work in a research lab. Women are a small minority, and gamma males are everywhere. Issues from that tension are the biggest problem we have had. In recent years, however, the problem of advancement favoritism has popped up. Some ladies have clearly been advanced due to political correctness over merit. That is causing some trouble right now, luckily in a part of the lab separate from me. I have been lucky with the women that I have had to deal with. One of them was a super hottie who easily got all the gammas to do her work. Another was the super rare black woman PhD in tech. She was a nightmare to work with, and in way over her head technically. Luckily both these two were short timers before they got the boot. I have had about five other women on my projects over the years, and they have acquitted themselves well. None have been our star scientists, but that’s fine they have been competent enough. Importantly, none save the black girl were SJWs. I think that is what has saved us.

Anonymous Magna Carta December 28, 2017 2:43 PM  

@12 "Ain't nobody meaner to women, than women." Ha! So true. I have a good female friend who goes on and on about men and male privilege. But then, she complains to me about certain women at her workplace who are pushing her down to climb the ladder. She can't stand them. Women give her the most trouble, by far. I always point out the irony that women treat her worse than men. She'll agree, but then keeps going back to the male sexism narrative. Please don't ask me why she is my friend, it's a complicated story...

Blogger Robert What? December 28, 2017 2:44 PM  

They need a Fugitive Slave Act for tech.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 28, 2017 2:48 PM  

A defamation lawsuit. Excellent. Fire up the popcorn popper. Considering they're going after her consulting business, seems like a reasonable chance of proving damages.

Blogger Seth Schueler December 28, 2017 2:54 PM  

Wolves are dogs and yes wolf packs have gammas...

Anonymous Random #57 December 28, 2017 2:57 PM  

@9 Aeoli Pera:

"Women can never be happy in tech because very high-ability people will always have an antifragile niche at the top"

Except they're entirely willing to get rid of such high-ability people, even if it predictably will kill the company and cost them their jobs.

"and high ability in tech correlates strongly with low male SMV."

That wasn't my experience in the East Coast before the turn of the century, mostly working in startups, unless maybe if you include Deltas in "low", which I reserve for Gammas and Omegas.

Anonymous Roundtine December 28, 2017 2:58 PM  

She's 90% SJW, but she has a problem with the last 10% needed to complete the revolution.

I’ve questioned some of their talking points and, at times, I’ve vehemently disagreed with some of their views, but I nonetheless support their mission of overthrowing the bourgeois and installing a dictatorship of the proletariat.

Anonymous Damn Crackers December 28, 2017 3:06 PM  

"...radical feminist narrative of many women in STEM groups."

Radical feminism or STEM success. Choose one.

Blogger The Kurgan December 28, 2017 3:06 PM  

Yeah. A story that begins with V and ends with A.

Blogger Jed Mask December 28, 2017 3:31 PM  

Yikes... So I have a "question" here:

How long y'all'd say the "SJW War" of Western Society has been going on?

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 28, 2017 3:33 PM  

Jed Mask wrote:

How long y'all'd say the "SJW War" of Western Society has been going on?


It began in earnest during the French Revolution, imho.

Blogger Francis The Pope December 28, 2017 3:40 PM  

"How long y'all'd say the "SJW War" of Western Society has been going on?"

I would say that WW2 was pretty much the start of it. SJWism is the natural end state of a society that values universal equality as its highest ideal, and the universal equality regimes of both the US and UK made it very clear that even firebombing white civilian population centers was legitimate to impose their ideology.

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 28, 2017 3:42 PM  

Vodka?

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 28, 2017 3:44 PM  

She sounds as insufferable as the rest of them.

Blogger tublecane December 28, 2017 4:03 PM  

@28-That's a tricky one. "Social justice" has of course been plaguing us a long, long time. But the specific type we're usually talking about showed up relatively recently. A good objective starting point might be when PC took over, but that's hard to pinpoint.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 28, 2017 4:17 PM  

"and even fewer will want to do so surrounded by foreign H1B Gammas and Omegas imported by the tech giants"

Yeah... I do get the impression that Gamma and Omega behavior is more common in India and China than it is here.

OpenID widlast December 28, 2017 4:22 PM  

When I worked a Lockheed (non DOD)about half of our personnel were women, and most of them quite competent. I have yet to meet a DB administrator that wasn't an Asian (usually Chinese) woman. We had none of the SJW crap either, wasn't tolerated. It was perform or perish. Did have quite a few that would quit after a month or so though.

Anonymous Blastmaster December 28, 2017 4:25 PM  

Cinton administration was when they began politicizing everything. I began to understand they were clearly insane when progs pushed for reducing the PHYSICAL requirements for female firefighters and lowering the hiring standards to bring more black police onboard. But then again, the left has always been about destroying functional institutions

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 28, 2017 4:42 PM  

Blastmaster wrote:I began to understand they were clearly insane when progs pushed for reducing the PHYSICAL requirements for female firefighters and lowering the hiring standards to bring more black police onboard.
The argument at the time was that the standards were set artificially high specifically in order to exclude .

Blogger Lovekraft December 28, 2017 4:59 PM  

With socialism, fairness is among the first casualty.

Blogger Lovekraft December 28, 2017 4:59 PM  

* and proper grammar lolzolz

Anonymous TechieDude December 28, 2017 5:13 PM  

I'm at a loss to understand the value of all these organizations she was thrown out of. All that volunteer time, and wasted social energy for what?

What use are these women only, race only groups? I've never seen one that would result in more Benjamins in my pocket. Seems to me it would be more worthwhile to spend time and energy in generating business.

By joining those hen parties, all she did was set herself up.

Blogger roughcoat December 28, 2017 6:00 PM  

The occasional highly talented sigma isn't a problem, just leave them alone and let them do their job the way they do it and for God's sake don't try to force them into TDD, pair programming or any of that low-aptitude CYA crap.

Preach!

Blogger S1AL December 28, 2017 6:05 PM  

Random #57 wrote:"and high ability in tech correlates strongly with low male SMV."

That wasn't my experience in the East Coast before the turn of the century, mostly working in startups, unless maybe if you include Deltas in "low", which I reserve for Gammas and Omegas.


Competent tech guys tend to be deltas of some stripe. The "gamma/omega tech dweeb" is pretty strictly limited to foreigners, programming, and the very low end of computer repair.

Anonymous BBGKB December 28, 2017 6:08 PM  

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Anonymous CloseHauled December 28, 2017 6:47 PM  

The occasional highly talented sigma isn't a problem, just leave them alone and let them do their job the way they do it and for God's sake don't try to force them into TDD, pair programming or any of that low-aptitude CYA crap.

Sigmas will likely skip, be late to, or very annoyed by daily 15-30[min] Agile standups too.

OpenID leukosfash December 28, 2017 7:24 PM  

This bitch is so full of pish. She only got the job in the first place because she had a vagina. Does anyone think she's done anything to restore workplace meritocracy in her whole life? Anyone think she would've put her career in jeopardy if what was happening to her was happening to someone else? The majority of woman don't care about abstractions like freedom of speech or freedom of association and sure as hell don't care about equality of application. All they care about is their own precious little behinds. They are feckless, inconsistent and without honour. They risk nothing for nobody and only squawk when they are personally getting it in the ass.

Blogger Duh-ave December 28, 2017 7:36 PM  

Jed Mask: Carry Nation and the rest of the 19th century Temperance Movement might be an early example.

Anonymous BBGKB December 28, 2017 7:46 PM  

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Blogger rumpole5 December 28, 2017 8:07 PM  

It began with the earthquake and tsunami that struck on a holy day. All the candles in the collapsed churches ignited a huge fire. Many survivors rushed down to the river and were drowned in the tsunami. The faith of the whole Western world was shaken. The French revolution follwed.

Blogger rumpole5 December 28, 2017 8:10 PM  

Lisbon earthquake 1755.

Blogger John rockwell December 28, 2017 9:28 PM  

''If anything, SJWs crack down even harder on women and other victim classes who refuse to accept their victimhood, because no one is more threatening to the SJWs' right to speak on their behalf.''

Of course those women suffering from stockholm syndrome do not know what is good for them.

Blogger John rockwell December 28, 2017 9:29 PM  

''If anything, SJWs crack down even harder on women and other victim classes who refuse to accept their victimhood, because no one is more threatening to the SJWs' right to speak on their behalf.''

Of course those women suffering from stockholm syndrome do not know what is good for them.

Blogger pyrrhus December 28, 2017 9:35 PM  

Saw this all the time in the law business. Women will often stab other women in the back to make sure that their affirmative action sinecure is not threatened.

Blogger pyrrhus December 28, 2017 9:36 PM  

"That was the day when Lisbon town, saw the earth open and gulp her down..." Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.

Anonymous CloseHauled December 28, 2017 10:23 PM  

This woman needs to get even:

Contact James O'Keefe for an inside look

Blogger Samantha December 28, 2017 11:47 PM  

Was forced to be in the U.S. Naval Sea Cadets Corps for a few years. 3 black girls threatened to beat me up after I didn't join in on the anti-male whining session (granted there was more to it than that). I hurt my leg and one feminist stole my icepack. lol satire is impossible now. Before reading SJWAL, I even gave my beliefs and the other girls sabotaged me repeatedly and stole my belongings (although the latter part may have had more to do with her being a South American anchor baby than with her political beliefs.)

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Blogger Mr Luchador December 29, 2017 2:30 AM  

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Blogger Timmy3 December 29, 2017 10:14 AM  

Just don’t join any worthless tech groups. Don’t tell your story. Do your work and go home.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 29, 2017 11:01 AM  

Spam cleanup required here and here.

Looks like the slacking on spam removal is making VP more attractive to spammers.  Time to scale up efforts.

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